Baseball Pitching Grips – How to throw a 4 seam fastball & 12-6 Curveball


Hey, what’s up guys? We’re talking a little baseball Pitching grips, [I’m] here with my sidekick jersey and my homeboy buddy and we’re going to talk about the four seam fastball and the [12:6] curveball okay great combination [to] pitch off of having a fast pitch that moves this way and a slower pitch that Breaks down and has a lot of depth to it, okay first of all the four Seam fastball They call it a four seam because you grip it Across the four seams some guys grip it on top of the seam here Other guys and myself grip it off of the seams here because the seams hurt the fingers too much But the reason they call it a four seam fastball is because when it’s traveling [through] the air. It’s spinning backwards it has backspin and Four seams cut through the air one two three four. That’s why they call it a four seam fastball, okay? Theory behind the four seam fastball is that you’re going to get more speed to the pitch Because you have more seams cutting through it and the magnus effect is going to help Carry that ball faster to home plate and stay on the same plane which in my opinion you want to have more depth on a pitch, but the four seam fastball can be used very effectively for In my example personally I would use the four seam fastball to go into a lefty so my ball will entail back over the plate [I] very very rarely [threw] a four seam Fastball to a righty. [I] would throw more of a sinker to a righty But again it can be a very effective pitch if you get some good backspin on it And it’s a good pitch to be able to locate where [you’re] pitching if you guys throw a four seam fastball go ahead and hit [that] thumbs up real quick and Then we’re going to talk about the [twelve] six curve ball. You [know] throw a 12-6 [curveball]. [I] don’t know where he went [Twelve] Six Curve Ball You’re going to grip the way. I grip it is you can grip it many different ways But the way, I grip it is where the open horseshoe is when I take my two fingers I’m going to take my middle finger and hook it [right] on that lace and Then I have this other finger and put it right next to it my thumb placement is going to be underneath in line pretty much with my two fingers but I’m cutting half of the ball more off on this side of the ball versus this [cylla] ball that’s going to help when I Throw this ball here It’s going to help for it to pop out and go forward now a 12-6 curveball is just like the four seam fastball Except instead of going four seams spinning through the air backwards you want it to go four seams through the air spinning Forwards and the more forward you can get this ball going this way with the four seams on the horseshoes the more depth Straight downward you’re going to get and that’s why they call it a 12-6 Curveball twelve six is just a reference to a clock imagine a clock [your] 12 is up here your six is down here You want that ball to go from here to [here] so it’s more of a straight down pitch then your typical curveball which is more of a [one] [seven] or [two] [eight] okay, so Again, I’m not really Squeezing extra hard on these laces, and I’m not soft. I know sometimes you hear hold it like an egg. I’m definitely not soft I’m not holding it like an egg, and I don’t have much space in between my hand here as you can see I’m pretty pretty I don’t want to say tight, but I’m pretty Close to the ball on my grip So I’ve got a very good grip on this ball Again when you come through you’re just trying to come fingers on top so your wrist angle is going to be this way On your [four-Seam] fastball your wrist angles going to be right behind on the curveball it’s going to be more like a karate chop But your fingers want to be on top coming down through that ball getting that four seam Spin going forward if you guys throw a 12-6 curveball go ahead and hit that thumbs up now, or if you found this [helpful] Go ahead and hit that [thumbs] up anyway, and share this video, okay? Go ahead and leave me a comment below and [let] me know what pitches you throw, we’ll talk about it in the comment section below Thanks guys hope this [helped] and I’ll talk to you soon you

89 thoughts on “Baseball Pitching Grips – How to throw a 4 seam fastball & 12-6 Curveball

  • October 26, 2015 at 7:14 pm
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    Good quality videos! Good job you have really improved.

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  • October 26, 2015 at 7:49 pm
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    Loving the videos 🙂

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  • October 26, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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    I throw a 12-6, circle-change up, splitter, and a 2 seam fastball.

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  • October 26, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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    Cool vids, trying to learn pitching from scratch so helps a bunch.

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  • October 26, 2015 at 11:13 pm
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    I throw a 2 seam fastball, a slider, and a curve ball

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  • October 27, 2015 at 2:39 am
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    I throw a slider curveball sinker and 4 seam

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  • October 27, 2015 at 9:05 am
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    Nice video! I love watching your video. It helps me a lot.

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  • October 27, 2015 at 6:36 pm
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    I love seeing these two pitches back 2 back on video because they are basically opposites. Good job man. Anyone who's LL coach says "throwing a curveball will hurt your elbow". Send him this video. If you drop that hammer just like John shows, you can throw 30 in a row and be just fine.

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  • October 27, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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    I throw sinker, 4 seam, slider, change up, and 12 6 curve

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  • October 27, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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    I throw sinker, 4 seam, slider, change up, and 12 6 curve

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  • October 28, 2015 at 5:04 am
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    Any advice on how to get moe run on my 2 Seam

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  • October 28, 2015 at 7:13 am
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    Hi, I throw 4 seam fastball, 2 seam fastball, slider, curve ball and Fork ball.
    I want to know if iS a good idea throw the 2 seam on the offside part of the plate to a right hand batter.
    Greetings and good videos.

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  • October 28, 2015 at 3:09 pm
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    I throw a 4 seam, circle-change, slurve and a knuckle-curve. I need a little adive on throwing a change up.

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  • October 29, 2015 at 2:25 am
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    I'm 12 and I throw a 4-seam fast ball in the low 60s a 2-seam fastball in the high 50s a circle – change 48 – 50 mph and a 12-6 curve 45-48 mph

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  • October 31, 2015 at 4:29 am
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    Aww Jersey and Buddy are adorable! I have a dog that looks just like Jersey.

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  • October 31, 2015 at 1:46 pm
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    I throw a circle change 4 seam and now thanks to this video a 12-6 curve

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  • November 4, 2015 at 6:55 am
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    Show us a cutter

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  • February 17, 2016 at 1:07 am
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    Oh boy do I like your videos I play catcher and my friend plays pitcher so I teach him how to by using your videos!

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  • February 26, 2016 at 8:48 am
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    I just recently found out I have a nasty break on my 12/6 curve ball which I never threw when I played in school.

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  • February 27, 2016 at 3:00 pm
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    ive been playing for a year… at first my elbow would hurt but after a few months it went away as soon as i started pitching and doing pitching drills my elbow started to hurt again i think its because my elbow is below my shoulder when i throw im not sure

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  • March 7, 2016 at 3:17 am
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    Thanks for the help

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  • March 20, 2016 at 3:30 am
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    4 seam, 2 seam, change up, slider

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  • April 2, 2016 at 12:08 am
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    so a 12 6 curve is a slow fastball with break

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  • April 4, 2016 at 2:00 pm
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    12-6 curve 4 seam slider 2 seam

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  • April 10, 2016 at 11:38 pm
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    What about a knuckle curve

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  • April 13, 2016 at 10:15 pm
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    always love his attitude and knowlege for the sport

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  • April 18, 2016 at 4:15 am
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    How do I locate my 4 seam better because when throw my 4 seam it's really inconsistent and I can't trust the pitch, and don't what it's going to do once it leaves my hand

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  • April 21, 2016 at 9:18 pm
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    Honestly I'm not even a pitcher and I find your knowledge for this sport.

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  • April 25, 2016 at 12:34 am
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    Great video! I was listening, but watching the dogs the whole time though.

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  • April 28, 2016 at 6:49 pm
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    how do you throw a good knuckleball and knuckle curve

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  • May 2, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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    I throw Sinkers which BTW I learned from him ,curves ,fastballs, and sliders

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  • May 3, 2016 at 6:55 pm
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    I don't throw any I want to but I can't get the grips right or speed it just drops

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  • May 8, 2016 at 12:49 pm
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    I pitched my first high school baseball game as a freshmen using those 2 pitches I faced 4 batters. struck the first one out with the 12-6 and him looking. struck the next one out. walked the next. struck out the 4th batter. and my coach said that he would be starting me next week after the game. Thanks

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  • June 7, 2016 at 7:33 am
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    I throw a 4 seam fast ball, cutter, and 12 6 curveball

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  • June 10, 2016 at 2:41 am
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    I throw a 4 seam a cutter/2 seam a slider and a circle change

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  • June 27, 2016 at 12:11 pm
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    I throw a 2 seem‚slider knuckleball 12-6 curve 4 seem cut fastball sinker

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  • July 6, 2016 at 1:15 am
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    Gonna try blitzball with the grip

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  • July 8, 2016 at 6:18 pm
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    4 seam, 2 seam, Slider and either the curveball or 12-6 but maybe 85% of the time it's a 12-6

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  • July 13, 2016 at 3:54 am
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    12-6 curve, the thumb should be on the bottom seam opposite the index finger to help spin the ball downwards.

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  • July 24, 2016 at 7:57 pm
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    I throw curveball slider 4 seam sinker changeup

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  • August 2, 2016 at 4:05 am
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    Mine was a Fastball

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  • August 3, 2016 at 3:24 pm
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    I throw 4 seam 2 seam knuckle 12-6 circle change and sinker

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  • August 4, 2016 at 5:01 pm
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    I don't throw fastballs like that

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  • August 5, 2016 at 4:01 am
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    I'm trying to learn the 2 seam what's some good advice

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  • October 20, 2016 at 10:27 pm
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    I tried for a week to throw a 12-6 but it kept going more like a fourseam. What can i do to fix it?

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  • November 9, 2016 at 8:25 pm
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    Hey John I'm a 16 year old pitcher, I'm incredibly new to the game but found out I can throw a 97 mph 4 seam fastball, what pitchs should I add to my Arsenal to become more effective?

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  • November 16, 2016 at 11:46 pm
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    just watching to learn how to throw my self some proper pitches in back yard to teach my 7 year ol son. he's not sure what sport he likes, but seems interested in Baseball, or football. Always been a fan watching both, never really played much of either, except street ball.
    thanks.

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  • January 3, 2017 at 3:19 pm
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    My 4 seam is a little iffy. My friend who plays for the Swiss national team says that with how fast my arm moves that it should be going much faster. But I can't get it to go faster. Any tips? I throw a four seam, 12-6, and a circle change up. Would like to add a cutter eventually but I want to develop my fastball and curveball more before I try. Thanks.

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  • January 14, 2017 at 9:42 am
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    why does my triceps and wrist hurt after I pitch??

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  • March 17, 2017 at 11:41 pm
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    i throw 4 seam and slider

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  • March 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm
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    I'm 17, out of highschool, and i want to get back into baseball. But im too much of a wuss to run to the rec league even though I'm not even close to being shy. what do I do?

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  • April 18, 2017 at 9:08 am
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    I created the rising fastball

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  • April 18, 2017 at 9:10 am
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    I have the video on my page

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  • April 21, 2017 at 8:56 pm
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    I pitch regular and i want to now how to pitch fast and curve to the side.

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  • April 22, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    love the way you explain how to do things! Very Helpful

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  • June 9, 2017 at 7:28 am
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    this helped me a lot and your dogs are good too

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  • June 11, 2017 at 3:40 am
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    I have a problem that no one has been able to help me with. When I throw a 4-seam fastball it is more of a change up than a fastball. Any advice or tips to help?

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  • June 12, 2017 at 8:35 pm
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    Look at the dog and the background tho

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  • June 28, 2017 at 3:48 am
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    I don't have a very powerful arm, but the 4 seam fastball and the 12-6 curveball with the cutter and 2 seam fastball are my 4 go-to pitches. I can put those 4 pitches anywhere I want them to go on a regular basis. To be honest, though, I'm mostly an outfielder who acts as a backup to the backup pitchers: at best I can touch 50 mph with my hardest fastball and my curve ball clocks in at 38 on average. Not exactly impressive, but for the beer league pickup games I play, it works reasonably well.

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  • June 29, 2017 at 7:27 pm
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    what's the difference between a slider and a 12-6 curveball release and grip

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  • July 5, 2017 at 7:50 pm
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    1) four seam fastball
    2) changeup
    3) curve which I want to change to a cutter
    4) 12-6 curve

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  • September 11, 2017 at 8:41 pm
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    thanks a lot all your videos help with me with pitching

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  • October 24, 2017 at 3:14 am
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    Thanks John Madden for the pitching grips. You make such a difference in the way I play and I’m happy for that. You are a great person and keep doing what you are doing😁⚾️

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  • October 25, 2017 at 2:26 am
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    I can throw 2 seamer and a 4 seamer and a cutter and a slider and a sinker all because of you accept I already knew a 2 seamer and a 4 seamer and a curve ball oh can't forget about the knuckle ball

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  • January 19, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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    very beneficial..thank you

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  • March 28, 2018 at 1:03 am
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    I Tho

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  • March 28, 2018 at 1:05 am
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    I throw 2-Sean fastball and the 4-Seam Fastball

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  • May 24, 2018 at 12:02 pm
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    Im 8 years old but im pitching 50 mph like if you like

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  • May 26, 2018 at 10:51 am
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    I know this is old but i like your videos

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  • July 2, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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    that dog

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  • July 2, 2018 at 11:36 pm
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    i am 10 and i throw 4 seam 2 seam slider and circle change

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  • July 2, 2018 at 11:38 pm
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    my fastest is 52.3 mph

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  • August 2, 2018 at 1:35 pm
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    My favorite pitch is the sinker

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  • September 6, 2018 at 12:55 pm
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    The dog though LOL

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  • September 14, 2018 at 11:11 pm
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    Not just for pitching but in position players does thumb placement matter when throwing? Like a thumb straight up or thumb bent?

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  • September 15, 2018 at 8:11 am
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    Haha thanks im pitching now 120mph my dad is playing major leuge

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  • October 9, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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    I doing a school project on grips and pitches, and I find your videos very helpful.
    Thanks.

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  • November 10, 2018 at 3:51 pm
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    Thank you now I know how to throw both

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  • November 10, 2018 at 3:51 pm
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    I'm going to subscribe

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  • January 30, 2019 at 4:11 am
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    I'm 13 and I throw a baseball 76mph

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  • March 2, 2019 at 5:08 am
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    Seams don't hurt your fingers smh

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  • April 10, 2019 at 4:48 pm
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    Thank you for the information …. Had to watch the video twice …. was focused on your Black Pit Bull who looks like a very good dog and deserves a treat for being a great "Wing Dog"

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  • May 5, 2019 at 4:26 pm
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    I’m an 11 year old kid and I am watching this I am a pitcher wanting to strike out salty kids

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  • May 6, 2019 at 5:45 pm
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    im the 2,000th like

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  • May 9, 2019 at 2:30 pm
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    I’m 16 and I can’t get my 4 seam to 80mph😂

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  • May 9, 2019 at 4:52 pm
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    I threw a 1 finger changeup curve ball. I am right handed, to the righty I threw at the hitters head and the pitch would end up on the outside corner of the plate. It broke down and away 10 mph slower than my cutter which was my other pitch. My first finger was with the seam and my thumb across the bottom, it went with my natural side arm motion. Same with the cutter, so the hitter could not tell what was coming. I have big hands and long fingers.

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  • May 16, 2019 at 2:04 am
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    Preciate this man! Gonna use it for instruction

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  • June 18, 2019 at 11:35 pm
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    My only pitches are 2 seam, 4 seam and change up but im trying to get better im the star pitcher on my team. I had an immaculate inning in 1 of my games this season so just trying to make it even harder for the other teams

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